Episode 19

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16th Jul 2025

Max, the Chaos Goblin, and Honest AI Conversations with Vikki Baptiste

👤 Our Guest:

This week, we're joined by Vikki Baptiste — Chief Digital Alchemist at 3

Bees Digital, AI image wrangler, and creator of curious tech things. If

you’ve wandered into the quirky corners of the internet, chances are

you’ve seen her work. Vikki shares her thoughts at vikki.wiki and

collects titles with the flair of a digital Pokémon trainer.

🎧 About the Episode:

In this episode, Anne Murphy and Kyle Shannon sit down with Vikki to

explore what it means to have honest conversations with and about AI.

From the whimsical origins of her “Chaos Goblin” companion, Max, to the

deeper questions of identity and tech, Vikki walks us through the ways

she balances play, curiosity, and clarity in her work. Expect a

refreshing take on AI that doesn't feel like another panel discussion or

product pitch.


🧭 Key Takeaways:

  • Why conversations with AI deserve more nuance and honesty
  • How personal projects can reveal universal insights
  • The role of identity in designing tech with intention
  • Why Vikki avoids “AI hype” in favor of real, usable tools


📅 Don’t Miss It:

The AI Readiness Project drops a new episode every Wednesday at 3pm with hosts Anne Murphy (She Leads AI) and Kyle Shannon (The AI Salon). Tune in and subscribe to stay ahead of the curve.

Transcript

0:04

Forget trying to keep up with AI. It's moving too fast. It's time to think differently about it. Welcome to the AI

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readiness project hosted by Kyle Sham and Anne Murphy. They're here to help you build the mindset to thrive in an

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AIdriven world and prepare for what's next. [Music]

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And Murphy, look at this. Today's the day, Kyle. This is the day. This is This is what

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it's all been building up to. It's all been building up to this very day. Exactly. Today, we we've got a special

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guest and we're going to be talking about not the AI readiness project, which is this podcast, but we're going

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to be talking about the AI readiness training program, which is why this podcast exists,

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everybody. So, this really is a big day. It's a big big day. So, let me let me

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give a little bit of background on how we got here and then we will bring up our guest of honor and we can start

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talking about this and the 10 steps of AI readiness and all sorts of good stuff. So, back at the beginning of the

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year, at the beginning of:

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for the rest of us, and it was a an international event. We had thousands of

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people from all over the world. It was really quite remarkable. And um we had 34 speakers over 24 hours. And I think

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we put it together in two weeks, something like that. What was remarkable was the people that um that spoke to a

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person didn't talk about AI technology. They were talking about their mindset and how they were thinking about AI and

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how they were applying AI. And there was something just remarkable about it. And one of the requests that kept emerging

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in the conversations was could we turn this into a training? And so we set out to do that. and and came up with this

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idea of AI readiness and AI readiness training. And so our guest of honor today is Vicky Baptiste, who we know and

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love, uh, who's the community manager for the AI salon, but also a remarkable person. Um, and and Vicki designed the

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curriculum for the AI readiness training program. So Vicki, welcome. Hi.

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Vicki, so happy to be here. I know. It's so it's so exciting to have

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you here. Um um so what I'd like to do, why don't just in case people are seeing

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this that don't know us, I'll do a quick intro, you do it too as well, an and then Vicki, if you could just tell us a bit about, you know, your background and

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who you are and then we'll get talking about what we what we've created here. So I'm Kyle Shannon. I'm the co-founder

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uh and the president of the AI Salon. I'm also a CEO of a company called Storyvine. And uh I'm I'm kind of into

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this AI stuff kind of kind

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I'm Ann Murphy. I'm the founder of She Leads AI and the co-founder well founder

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well CEO CEO and founder of Empowered Fundraiser Consulting. And I'm super happy to be here.

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All righty. And I am Vicki Baptiste. I am let's see primarily I am the

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enterprise product manager at a large insurance company but um in my spare

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time I am the community director for the AI salon. I have my own um web design

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and marketing agency called 3Bs digital and a number of projects. I will not go

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into how many but let's say I'm just like this deep into AI.

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Well, haven't you were saying before we started, haven't you just hit a milestone with custom GPTs?

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I have. I just crossed the 300 line and um some of them are like for my clients.

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So, they're not all out there. Um the hard part just comes like go going back into um updating them. Every time C GPT

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does something new, you have to like go in and check more boxes and whatever. So, so upkeep is a little I would have

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more if I didn't have to do all that upkeep. Put it that way. Yeah, that's great. That's awesome. What about what about your 3D printing?

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Because I've been following you on TikTok for a couple years and I have thoroughly enjoyed all of your

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creations. Where are you in your 3D printing 3D printing journey? Um, I currently have two printers that

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are broken. I just I think I knew that because I haven't seen as many of your creations. I almost

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hesitated to ask. They're all around. They're they're everywhere. Oh, they're so cute. You did just have to say 3D printing and

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like I have like, you know, they're they're everywhere. Oh, you have your own, Kyle?

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Yeah. Well, I have a lot of things that Vicki made for me. She sent me little add fidget spinners and things like

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that. The fidget spinners are fun, but um yeah, I just actually gave away like

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five 3D printers that I wasn't Wow, that's amazing. And then the other

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two are in in various states of disrepair. That's crazy. Um well, so let's get

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started today. So here's what we're going to do. I'll give you a little rundown of the the agenda. So first thing we're going to do is we're going

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to walk through what we what we call the 10 steps of AI readiness. And these are just kind of some some ideas as we were

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looking to put together the curriculum and we were trying to figure out what are the what are the through lines that were across all of these different

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talks. And one of the things we wanted to do in particular was make sure that this

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training was evergreen. That this wasn't something that if you watched it, it would be irrelevant three months from

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now or six months from now because the tools are changing so much. So, so what we'll do is this. There there's 10 steps

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and what I'll do is I'll kind of tee up a step and then Vicki and Ann if you guys would just kind of riff on it and

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just give your thoughts and you know where's your head and it it's actually going to be interesting from where we

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started to where we are now. you know has anything changed from when we did this you know started this six months ago. So step number one of AI readiness

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is start with a problem not a tool. One of the things that is uh seductive about

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AI technology is because it's so powerful, you might say, "Oh, I want to do something with chat GPT as opposed to

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saying, "Hey, I've got this problem I want to solve. What's the best tool to solve that?" Which may or may not be chat GPT. It might just be Microsoft

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Word in your brain, right? So, um, so start with a problem, not a tool. Thoughts?

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[Music] Well, start with a problem, not a tool is something that I learned even before

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AI festivist from Suzanne Welker Jurgens, one of our favorite community members. No matter what community you're

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in, Suzanne, if Suzanne is there, it's a better place. But she kind of trained retrained a bunch of us over time to

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actually sit and think before we started a project and to kind of treat our work

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as though we were product managers which at you know when I first met Suzanne I had no idea what she even meant by that.

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Um but I I really appreciate that point of view and I've taken it into everything I do with AI is like start

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with the problem in mind. Beautiful. I feel the same thing and I

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know like Suzanne presented in AI the in AI festivals and is which became part of

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this curriculum I should say I'm sorry I don't speak well um and that that was

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one of the things that she like like contributed to this course is like that

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that's really where you have to start. So um that you know the problem you're not

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doing if you're not solving a problem you're not really doing anything right. Yeah.

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Beautiful. Beautiful. And sometimes it's sometimes it's in conflict with our idea of just play,

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but you can do you you can be doing both things at the same time. And even if you

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start out with I'm going to play like maybe have a little bit of a direction

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going into it. I just think that this has been some of the best advice I've been given about working with AI. Yeah. Love it. Okay. Number two, and I I

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love this one. Um I'm I'm fond of saying there there are no experts, right? Because things are changing so fast that

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anyone that tells you that knows know what's going on is just lying. And that is this number two is embrace a

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beginner's mindset. So Vicki, why don't you lead us off on this one? What are your thoughts on having that that

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mindset where we know we we know nothing? Know nothing. Yeah, I think that's so important. Um it and that kind of really

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feeds into the play thing, right? So you can learn so much just by playing and if

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you go into it with that attitude of like I don't know like where do I start like what do I do and you can ask all

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those questions to whatever LLM you're using and it will guide you through you

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know what you need to do something what what you need to do to complete the thing that you're trying to complete and

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if you like go into it with I know nothing then you learn more because you're not taking any of your own bias

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into that. So, I think it's that's a really important step.

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Yeah. I think that um having a beginner's mindset is also a really

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vulnerable place for a lot of people to to come from and that it's important and

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I'm glad that we normalize that throughout this program is like, you know, we're all beginners. Like Kyle

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says, there are no experts. But along with being a beginner is this admission that you don't know what you're doing.

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And for a lot of people, that is the hardest part to get through. It's like we're trying we're old dogs and we're

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trying new tricks. What's it like to to do that? There's there's a there's a it's there's

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almost like a self-imposed pressure that and and I hear this a lot from people. I should be better at, right? I should be

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better at prompting. I should be better at AI. And really just giving yourself the grace to say, I don't know what I'm

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doing. And it's it's it's not always a comfortable place to be, but I think it's really important because that's how

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you learn. And that's that's also a place that you can ask questions from and ask for help from others, right? So,

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it's kind of like when you're um like if you have a business and you're going in to help someone else, you have to have a

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discovery session, right? You can't go into a business knowing everything about that business. And so, that's where that

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that's a beginner's mindset, too. And so I think that comes through in like

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whatever you do, you need to start to build your foundation by asking questions.

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Beautiful. Okay. Number three, step number three on the path to AI readiness

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is is just start using it and brain dump. Um, so basically one of the things

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that blows me away about chat GPT is its ability to organize my thoughts because

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they can be all over the place. And so the idea is basically I guess it's a a twist on the Nike the Nike uh tagline

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just do it right just jump in and throw your ideas in there. So what are what are your thoughts on that one?

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Well this kind of makes me think about what you've been talking about recently with the feed your prompt thing of how

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important and then you know now we're all excited about context engineering. It's like,

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you know, how can you give AI the information that you need in order for

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it to do a good job as a partner with you, right? Not expecting people to be able to figure things out without giving them

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background. So, that's this piece about, you know, start using it and do a brain dump. Give it context so that it can

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that it can go to town on on the project that you're working on together. Yep. Good. Any any further thoughts on

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that, Vicki? I I do. I have. So, this one um idea can

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like go through all of these steps. Um I was having a meltdown the other day because like I had so many things to do

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and I was behind in so many things. And so I opened Menace

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and I said, "Look, this is like literally through tears." I read through my whole to-do list, which is sorted out

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into personal, business, salon, da da da, whatever. And I said, "I don't I'm

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frozen. I don't know my next step. I don't know where to start and I just need help getting this done. And so I

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now have a working document with Manace that um it tells me exactly what to do

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and like I print it out every day and I keep that window open in Manis and I

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update it said I finish this, I finish this, I finish this but I also need to add this this and this and it just sorts

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out the whole thing for me and it's like so no more tears and I have my days

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That's genius. That's really good. So just so that kind of like covers a bunch of things that are in all of these

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10 steps, right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Like it it is it is remarkably good at taking just

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all sorts of disperate ideas and and and it essentially in an instant organizing

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it. It really is quite remarkable. Which is most important and which I can like leave at the bottom of the list and

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Yeah. Yep. Getting done. Yeah, exactly. Okay, number four. Um,

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focus on practical quick wins, right? And so this is for those of us with ADHD. I think this one's a critical one

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that uh you know, you want to see victory. The good news about AI is that it can deliver quick wins. But but I'm

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curious what either of you think on on the you know, get get that dopamine hit.

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Well, this goes back to one of our one of our favorite presenters, Josh Houston. And as you Kyle, when Josh was

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on the show, he he reminded us that what we all are as as working human beings is

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we're people who get paid to make files. At the end of the day, if you know, like, fight me in the comments, tell me

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I'm wrong. At the end of the day, all we are are people who are paid to make files. and his company is quick AI wins.

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So he's like boiled this down to a science of like if your ro if your goal in life is to make a file, let's get you

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to that point, right? And he focuses on like let's remove some

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of the you know high high flutin like long-term wins and get people those

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dopamine hits, right? That time to value shortening it as fast as m as fast as you can so that you have the motivation

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to keep on going. you we can all do big huge lofty projects for sure and

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sometimes that makes those make the quick wins feel less significant but

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they're not y and I think that also like going back to Josh's presentation at AI festival is

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like I remember that he started with like identify what your problems are okay so we're going back like a couple of points ago identify your problems and

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like if you chunk them down and like knock them out like 10 pins like one at

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a time, you can see for um forward momentum. Yeah, I think that's where I'm going. Um and as long as you can see

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forward momentum, like you can keep going. So like those quick wins, I think again ADHD brain like quick wins are so

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important. Y that's great. Um I'm going to do number five. I don't think we need to comment on number five

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because I think it's really straightforward and and but it's basically this. Use free AI tools to get

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started. One of the things I hear over and over again is, you know, which subscript subscription do I do? Do I

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have to pay for anything? Almost everything with the maybe exception of video tools where they can be, you know,

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you have to have a subscription there. But for almost everything, there are free tools and they're just out there.

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Free chat GPT is good, free cloud's good, free perplexity is good. There are really good tools out there to just get

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started. So don't feel like you need to do it. So that was number five. So here's number six. And this is one, you

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know, I want to dig in, but we got to keep it nice and tight here. So, so, uh, be be concise on this. Leverage AI to

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enhance your zone of genius. This one I'm particularly passionate about, and I

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think this one is one of the most critical things about being successful with AI. But, um, enhance your zone of

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genius using AI. What are your thoughts, Vicki? Um, I want to say it's really hard for

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me to stick to a zone of genius because I'm like the, you know, it's it's the tea model, right? I want to try like

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everything at the top, but there are ways that I go deep and like chat GPT and mid Journey are my are my going

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deep. Um, I I I try all the other tools, but that zone of genius thing I think is my is is

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chat is custom GPTs. Yeah. Yeah. When I think about zone of

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genius in this context, it's it reminds me of how important it is to think of AI as as a way to amplify ourselves like

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you talk about Kyle, right? This is about amplifying myself, the goodness in me, the good things that I do. And then

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I think about when I'm operating outside of my zone of genius, when I'm using AI, that's when I need to remember that I

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need to tread carefully because I might not be able I might not know inherently that there's bias in here or these facts

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are wrong or whatever. If we're talking about physics, all of a sudden I'm outside of my zone of genius. And that's when I need to be a little bit cautious

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when I'm using AI. Yep. Yep. And for and for me it's about having a personal point of view, right?

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Understand here's what I'm trying to accomplish. Here's what I want to do in the world. And then as AI feeds it back

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to you, you know, saying, "Is that good? Is it what I want?" Things like that. Like be in be in your um you know, in

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that point of view for yourself where you understand what's good and what's not. Um Vicki, I'll I'll lead with you

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on this one again. Um number seven on steps to AI readiness is be aware of

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data privacy and security. You work for a big organization. Um I work with a lot

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of big pharma companies. um talk to me about um the excitement of AI tools

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versus uh being responsible and professional when it comes to things like data and

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security and privacy. Yeah, I think that this one is so important and it's something that a lot of people not

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necessarily intentionally ignore, but like you get really excited about something and you start putting it on

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here's my bank statement like can you tell me where I can save money and like people just don't think of that you know

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what what they're actually giving to whatever LLM or whatever tool that they're using and um data privacy is

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yeah I mean we work with people who we need to protect their identity so I'm

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always really cautious especially at work like I I I can be tripped up by like just copying a chunk of text out of

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a corporate website and putting it in and say you know asking my question and it says oh sorry we can't do that. So I

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started started using like this the square brackets um you know with like name of company in there and stuff like

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that and then you can just like translate that back to whatever you're doing and then fill in fill in your stuff after you've got your answer and

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you're out of the AI tool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This reminds me of Tracy,

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the safety lady, Hawkins, right? She says, "Don't don't don't believe anything you see, hear, or read."

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Period. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Assu assume, you know, it's going to be uh assume

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it's it's going to be wrong and, you know, verify that it's right. And also, you know, don't don't put in state

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secrets into things where you don't deeply understand the security and privacy policy of the tool that you're

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using. Right? you know, we we uh we we work with a lot of pharma clients and so we are contractually obligated not to do

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things like share personal data and so um again it can be very easy to be

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seduced into just oh let me just drop in that information and get the quick answer back. Um but but just just be

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very very aware of that. Also, sorry just on that same topic like

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it's very good at teaching you things about security that you don't know. Like I didn't realize until recently like um

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for instance like the uppercase L looks the same as sorry uppercase I looks the

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same as an L if you're using like a a sans Sarah font. So when you think you're sending something to PayPal it

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could be like P A Y P A capital I.com and like you don't think about that kind

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of stuff until you actually put that text into like a different font and you can see what's going on.

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Interesting. I learned that through. There you go. Amazing. Amazing. Um,

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okay. This is a fun one. So, Ann, I'll have you jump in on this one. And that is build your AI intuition.

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Tell tell us what you think that means for you. Well, I think it it it kind of hearkens

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back to why this is AI readiness, not AI literacy. Like AI literacy is something

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you can check a box on. You get to a point where there's like a minimum viable understanding of

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something and you're literate, right? And you just I'm literate on midjourney. I'm literate on literate. Exactly.

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Same thing with like readiness and intuition. And the thing that I like about intuition is when I developed it,

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I was it was such a huge level up. And it's for me my version of AI intuition

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is being able to open up a platform that I've never seen before and like

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understand the uni user interface pretty well. When I first started, I just didn't even

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know like and when I'm talking to something like Chad GPT, remember in the beginning when it was just that little

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box on the bottom, I remember with no no information around it, just this box. And I remember

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thinking there's no way the entirety of the public, you know, Beyonce's internet

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is inside this box. And over time as you use it, you just

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develop these muscles and your intuition. you start knowing, okay, when I'm now dropped into this user

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interface, this is probably how I'm supposed to, you know, interface with it. And that has helped a lot.

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Great. Love it. And how about you, Vicki? What's what's your relationship with intuition and these tools?

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Whenever I hear intuition, I always think of that like knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit and intuition is not putting it in the fruit salad. Um

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I'm like I I like like to me like intuition is if I want to make a specific kind of image

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I know that I can go to midjourney because it has mood boards. If I want to make a gen more general image I can do

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it in Delhi in ChachiPT because like it's so good now. Um, and I think that

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was that again is something that is reinforced like throughout the lessons in this course is like it it teaches you

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like how to build up your intuition like to know what tool to use, not

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necessarily like naming tools, but like what what kind of tool do you need deep research or do you just need like a

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quick answer kind of? Yeah. Yeah. It it reminds me when I when I went to acting school, one of the

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things I wondered is what do they teach you at acting school? And and what they teach you is they teach you a bunch of

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tools that you're supposed to practice enough that you forget the tool and just

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get back to your intuition. And I feel like AI is very similar where there are things to learn. There's learning how to

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prompt and learning how to give it feedback and give it context and all that sort of stuff. And once you get to

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a certain level of mastery with that, you can start to be a bit more intuitive and just here's a problem I have. Ah,

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okay. I know I'm going to use this tool or that tool and if that doesn't work, I'll go over here. But but there there's

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a level of mastery that's required. And I think you just get that through playing and practice and doing. So

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I think the course really really helps with intuition because it gives a solid

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enough foundation in a breadth of areas so you can begin to connect dots. Like

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you're going to be doing an AI project or you're going to see something that you think you could use AI on and you're going to know, okay, this dot and that

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dot can get hooked together by this type of a tool. Not necessarily which exact

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tool of the moment, but you know, here's what I'm trying to do. Oh, that's a video generator. Yep. Great. Love it.

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Number back to intuition like the the thing that is like your intuition to is to

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just like speak to a person. Speak to chat GPT like you're speaking to a person. Oh yeah.

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People's like they might start off doing like oh I need and like you know start

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talking like a robot but like your your intuition should lead and that's what

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you use like to put in a prompt. It is a large language model, not a large logic model. Right. So, yeah,

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use your words. That's great. Um, step number nine of AI readiness is build

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community. Uh, you're looking at three people that are deeply passionate about that. Uh, Vicki, you you are the

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community manager for the AI salon. Um, tell us what you feel the value of community is with this AI stuff. I love

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our community and um it's it's like building community is is hard because

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people have opinions and like I I have not seen another community like our

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community where people are so forgiving. They're so helpful. Everybody just wants to jump in. You know, if someone has a

25:31

project, everyone can jump in on the project and help and like there's no it's not clicky at all. And I think

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that's really important for a community because if it gets to be like clicky, you start to get divides and divides are

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really hard to handle. So I I just love that everyone is so cohesive and I think a lot of that is because everyone is

25:51

learning from everyone else. So if you keep all your ideas to yourself, you're not benefiting yourself and you're not

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benefiting anyone else in the community. So the the sharing part of community I think is what helps us all stick

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together. Beautiful. Yeah. Love Same same. And I mean there aren't enough hours in a day or in a

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lifetime for us to learn all the things ourselves. So we need we need to look to what other people have tried, failed,

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gotten up, dusted themselves off, retrieded, and um kind of put those learnings take

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those learnings on as if they are our own. It's the fastest way to get better, you know.

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Yeah, I agree. It's the the the quantity the the amount of change in the quant the sheer quantity of tools is

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impossible to keep up with. There's a thing on top of it which is when you're

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in a community of people that are curious about AI um you get very very different points of views. So when Jim

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Ross who you know manages you know self- storage units when he gives his take on

26:53

how he uses AI it's really obvious to him but it's often revoly to me because

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I'm not from that point of view. So even things that I know how to do when I see someone else use it I learn new things

27:05

from that. So, so there's just the sheer quantity, but there's also the different lenses that people work with AI through

27:13

that that it it is revoly sometimes. You're like, "Oh, I need to go try that for this project." Right. That's very

27:20

exciting to me. Um, great. Okay, last one. And then Vicki, I want you to walk us through the

27:25

uh the the the sections of the AI readiness training program. But the last step in in AI readiness um comes to us

27:33

largely from uh Adnan IFAR I think is how you say his last name and Brian Moahan. Um and it's this focus on

27:41

adaptability quotient and emotional quotient. So we know the IQ intellectual

27:47

quotient. Over the past decade or so, we've talked a lot about EQ and the concept that that they brought up is

27:53

balancing IQ, EQ, and this new thing of adaptability quotient. Um, things are

28:00

changing, things are going to keep changing and we're going to need to adapt. So, um, so maybe you could both

28:07

just share, you know, how have you adapted over the past two, two and a half years as you've been immersed in

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this world of of craziness? You get first, Sam.

28:18

Oh boy. Um, okay. I do think that I've

28:24

developed a higher tolerance for the sheer volume of like

28:30

many decisions that I make in a day because I have information and insights and knowledge that comes, you know,

28:38

through me so fast. And so like all before like 9:00 in the morning, I've

28:43

made a thousand decisions. And in the in the beginning that was really really taxing. I wasn't used to thinking that

28:49

way or like getting through a day that way. But now I do think my brain

28:54

actually got stronger and got better at like utilizing the insights, utilizing

29:00

the knowledge and then making a decision and moving on to the next thing and not having it be as exhausting as it was in

29:06

the beginning. Beautiful. The main thing adaptability for you Vicki.

29:11

where where where have you you know exercised that muscle? I think like um Ann's comment like rings

29:19

true with me and I always say like I use the line from Alice in Wonderland. I think it was the white queen that said

29:24

something like I've already completed six impossible tasks before breakfast. I think

29:32

I have to reread that one to see where it really came from but I think that's it. Um I think that for me adaptability

29:39

is that everything changes so quickly. Like I said with the um custom GPTs, I

29:45

have to go through them all now and like check this box because um um OpenAI

29:50

added I can't remember what box it is you have to check but like everything is

29:56

just changing so fast and we used to have this mentality and a lot of people like I feel more like people outside of

30:02

AI still do when um you know Facebook changes something on their homepage and

30:07

everyone's like oh I hate this and then after a while it's like oh my god it's the best thing ever. like I don't know how we how we survived without it. And I

30:14

think that adaptability is like they're changing things for our own good and like you see these changes

30:22

in the different AI tools and you think, "Oh, why didn't they just leave it alone? It was awesome." And then you

30:27

have this extra thing that they've added on top and it's no that really does work. I really like it. And so I think

30:33

like being able to look at those things as positives rather than negatives is is

30:39

pretty big. That's really good. That's really good. Um, for for me, the adaptability thing has to do with

30:46

preciousness. Sometimes I'll build something and it's really good and it's really innovative

30:52

and people see it and they're like, "Oh my god." And then three months later, my instinct is that it's still as genius

30:59

as it was three months ago, but now things have evolved and now it's just a feature of of one of these tools, right?

31:05

So the thing that I made is no longer and and be being able to not be precious

31:11

with the things we create and and just really recognize, okay, great. I learned something in that. I'm glad I did it. It

31:16

was really exciting for a month or two and now it's time to move on. So letting go of, you know, your precious things

31:22

that you've created. Um I think I think is a skill worth doing. And it doesn't mean you shouldn't do the work. You

31:28

should do the work. Let it be precious in the moment. And then if things change quickly and that's no longer as

31:34

relevant, let it go and and figure out the next thing. Yeah. Great. So that's it. So those are the 10

31:40

steps of of AI readiness. Uh just just as as sort of key themes that we pulled

31:45

out of these this 24 hours uh of of AI festivist. Vicki, if you'd be so kind

31:51

right now, what I'd love to have you do is just walk us through what are the main sections, you know, talk talk us

31:56

about the program overall. What are the main sections and what can people expect to learn? uh in the uh in the program.

32:03

Awesome. And I have to refer to another screen because I cannot remember all

32:09

this stuff off the top of my head because there is so much in there. Um but I think like one of the main things

32:14

that really hit me about this um this as a course is that you could pay the price

32:21

of the course just to have access to those videos from AIS because there's so

32:26

much so much magic. So like so much knowledge crammed into those videos and

32:33

I know like a lot of courses they do sell access to video or if you go to a webinar like this okay you can you can

32:40

um like pay more money and have like permanent access to these videos. So I think that's really important but also

32:47

the learning like we are not directly teaching from someone's video. we are

32:52

looking at the information that they gave us and looking that that information as a whole and that's what

32:58

helped us to develop the course. So we walked through like five different areas

33:03

in this course. So you could essentially say you can complete it in five days or it's everything's just split into five.

33:10

You probably could complete it in five days but I recommend like taking more because like you really want to soak in

33:16

that knowledge. Um so we start with um AI foundations. So um AI exploration and

33:24

I I'll just go like quickly through the topics and then go into them in a little bit more detail. Um then the second

33:30

session is the AI powered business and the third session is the creative process. The fourth se session is

33:39

responsible innovation. So important. And the last session is like actually

33:44

putting your AI into action. So the first session is like the longest. It actually has um there's I think 12

33:52

lessons. Most most sessions have nine. This one had so much information that we

33:57

had to split it into 12. And we're talking about culture shifts. And we're talking about like scaling AI from an

34:03

individual to a business. So you can come into this as a business owner or you can come into this as an individual

34:10

and it whatever you do like you can adapt the knowledge to your like your

34:15

special area of interest. Uh we also talked about um problem driven results

34:20

and that was the session we talked about before with Suzanne Welker Jurgens um who teaches you how to like really dig

34:26

into something pull out the problems and then you know use those use those

34:31

problems to move forward with your AI learning and that is also the session that has the culture shift with Brian

34:37

and Adnan with the IQ AQ EQ um formula

34:43

the AI and business um and like you know you can absolutely skip this if you're not in business but like I think like

34:49

everyone in AI is in business.

34:56

Yes. And you know even if you don't have like a business um you can still get good

35:02

information from this session. So, we're talking about tools, ethics, and growth with a panel that included like Jim Ross

35:08

that Kyle talked about before. Um, as well as a bunch of other people who are

35:14

talking about like how they use AI in their business. And again, like you can equate that to just individual stuff. It

35:21

doesn't have to be a business. We're talking about um simplifying AI adoption

35:27

services for consultants and that's the session with Josh Houston. And then we're also looking at prioritizing

35:32

wellness in the workplace, which is really important because you don't want to burn out. So, we're looking at recognizing opportunities. We're looking

35:39

at building an AI ready business culture. And I think we even talked about AI councils somewhere in there as

35:46

well. Um, yeah. Uh the creativity one is fun

35:52

because we're looking at art, we're looking at music, we're looking at video, and the sessions are really fun

35:58

to be able to see what people have done. People like Kelly Bosch, um CJ uh god,

36:04

I've forgotten. Sorry, I forgot his last name. a lot of people who you've actually seen like on

36:11

this podcast um talking about like how they achieve what they do and their

36:16

mindset towards creativity which I think is actually really fun um talking about

36:23

about film making and while in their session what they actually show may have evolved into more it's always like a

36:31

good starting place and you know can show you where you can like build film making into a business like people like

36:37

joy 30. Yeah. Um the ethics policy ethics and civil

36:42

civil engagement is like the responsible innovation section. So that's like we talked about Tracy the safety lady. Um

36:49

we also spoke to Dawn whose name I cannot remember but al also talks about cyber security.

36:56

That's right. Yes. and um Cindy Coon's session, this pulls on Cindy's session from like cultivating cultivating the AI

37:03

mindset and like while you might think that the lines in the beginner session like it's really um cultivating your

37:12

mindset like to adopt an AI um secure environment for yourself and for you

37:19

know people you're working for if you have a business. And the last section is like putting everything to action into

37:24

action and we had like an amazing session with Glenn on his internet gold like how to pull out

37:30

you know pull out gold from various things. Um and then we also um talked

37:36

with about education with um Mr. K who is coming up in a future podcast as well

37:41

I believe or might be a past podcast at this stage and Tara Bonho and like her

37:47

future product playground I feel like some of Cindy's work like um feeds into

37:52

this as well like where you're predicting like what can come in the future and it's like um is it the Wayne

37:58

Gritsky thing this like skating to the park um and then also there's a podcast panel

38:04

in there and like P teaching me about language models so you can really dig begin to like how AI works and we are

38:11

not expecting you to come out with a pate mo level mindset about how AI works

38:17

but I think it's really important to look behind the scenes and say okay why does a why does chat GPT give me the

38:24

answers that it gives me how does that work and what is what is hallucination and why does it do that and how can that

38:31

yeah exactly all that sort of stuff I mean not only do you need to know for yourself but like if you have a business you need to explain it to your clients

38:38

as well. So, you know, having all that learning is is just so awesome. Beautiful. Yeah, that's terrific. So,

38:44

that's that's the curriculum, these five main areas and it's, you know, you go through that and it really does give you

38:49

a foundation to be able to think about this stuff, whether you're going to use it personally, professionally, things

38:54

like that. Um, the the training program is now available. So, thank you, you

39:00

know, Vicki for putting it together. Thank you all of us for for, you know, hanging in there. And uh and thanks

39:07

everyone who's watching uh for your patience. But if you go to are you readyforai.com

39:13

as you see on the screen right there letters are you ready number4i.com

39:19

um you can you can uh sign up for the uh for the training and it is incredibly

39:25

reasonable and um Vicki has done just an amazing job. So Vicki, thank you for

39:30

hanging out with us. Um, for someone who didn't want to be on camera, can I just say you you nailed it.

39:38

You nailed it. Vicki is Vicki is one of those people like don't listen to what

39:43

she says she can't do because it's opposite it's opposite day. Um,

39:48

couple of couple of things that we would be remiss if we didn't give shoutouts for.

39:54

First of all, our amazing faculty. So everybody who presented at AI festivist

40:00

gave so generously and that's one of the things that kind of goes back to that thing about community. It's like we have

40:07

this extended community who are so generous with one another and so the

40:12

information that you get in the AI readiness program is the real tea. It's

40:17

like what the what real people are doing every day. normal, literally normal everyday people just like me, just like

40:23

you, just like the three of us, and people who aren't even as obsessed with AI as we are. So, huge huge shout out to

40:31

all of our faculty who presented. Then, um, we love to have feedback. So,

40:38

as when you when you grab the course and you start going through it, please let us know how it's going. We want to hear

40:45

from you. So don't think that this is like some product that you're going to buy and go away in a corner and do

40:51

unless you want to do it that way. You are part of our community. So the three of us who are on the screen right now or

40:58

in your ears, we would absolutely love to hear from you as you're going

41:03

through the program and let us put your picture on the website. Tell us tell us what you like about it. We would love to

41:10

have testimonials there. So don't forget about that. Um, also there are a whole

41:15

heck of a lot of people behind doing what we do here on this screen right

41:20

now. And I just I mean there's too many to count, but I do just want to give a

41:26

shout out to the many many people who show up in our communities every day to make opportunities like this possible

41:33

for other people. And whether it was through AI festivist or curation of the content or making the making the program

41:40

like you Vicki, there are lots of people around us who help us do this kind of stuff. So huge shout out to them. Um

41:47

Kyle, do you want to recognize people? Yes, please. Great. I just wanted to say a special

41:52

shout out to those people that actually tested the course for us to make sure that everything.

41:58

Yeah. Thank you. Shout out to them. Kyle, where can the nice people? They

42:03

can go to are you readyforai.com are you readyforai.com go there check it

42:09

out you can read all about it and basically sign up there and begin today and as Vicki said you want to power

42:14

through it in a couple of days five days you know a day per per section you can do that I think this is also something

42:20

that you could really soak in over weeks or months right there there's there's a lot here to unpack so um so yeah thank

42:28

you everyone thank you to you two been a real pleasure today and we forgot Sorry you keep trying to kick

42:34

me off. We got one more thing. The certificate. We got to talk about the certificate.

42:41

[Music] Everyone loves the certificate. I had no

42:47

idea how much we love our certificates. So you complete the course, you get a

42:53

certificate. So you can show it off. You can put it on LinkedIn. You can put it, you know, next to your name on your CV.

43:00

You can brag about it to your neighbors. You have completed this course. You are part of something real that exists and

43:06

has human beings attached to it. Listen, I it it may seem it may seem

43:13

like like a potentially frivolous thing. People in our communities that have said they're a part of our community that

43:19

they've done particular things within our community that they run our community. It makes a difference. People

43:24

are layoffs. They're getting promotions at jobs. So, absolutely take advantage of that. So, great point.

43:31

Yeah. And we have like a community set up for this in the AI salon. So like if you're going through the course and

43:36

you're like, "Oh, I don't know how to pass this question to get on to the next stage." Go and chat with someone in the

43:42

community about it and they can help you get through it. Perfect. Questions are not too hard. They are not

43:47

too hard. Awesome. Well, thank you everybody and thanks everybody. Great to see you all.

43:54

We'll see you out there. Bye. [Music]

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AI Readiness Project
Forget trying to keep up with AI, it's moving too fast. It's time to think differently about it.
The AI Readiness Project is a weekly show co-hosted by Anne Murphy of She Leads AI and Kyle Shannon of The AI Salon, exploring how individuals and organizations are implementing AI in their business, community, and personal life.

Each episode offers a candid, behind-the-scenes look at how real people are experimenting with artificial intelligence—what’s actually working, what’s not, and what’s changing fast.

You’ll hear from nonprofit leaders, small business owners, educators, creatives, and technologists—people building AI into their day-to-day decisions, not just dreaming about the future.

If you're figuring out how to bring AI into your own work or team, this show gives you real examples, lessons learned, and thoughtful conversations that meet you where you are.

• Conversations grounded in practice, not just theory
• Lessons from people leading AI projects across sectors
• Honest talk about risks, routines, wins, and surprises

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