The AI Readiness Project Series Finale

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Anne Murphy

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Announcer

Readiness project. We believe that in this remarkable age, AI isn't the main character you are. While the tech is racing ahead, it's the humans who learn to harness AI mindfully that will win. Each week we meet remarkable people doing just that. Join Kyle Shannon, tech leader and AI instigator and Ann Murphy, fundraiser and AI consultant as they lead the conversation about staying grounded, growing smarter, and leading with what makes us human.

00:37

Kyle Shannon

There we go. I I It's what, it's the bop. It's the bop. You gotta love the bop.

00:45

Anne Murphy

Yeah.

00:47

Kyle Shannon

Welcome I am to we. We have our season two finale. This is excited about this. We've got so many guests today that we're gonna. You and I are going to tighten things up, but I do want to connect with you and find out where you've been. I, I have been on a speaking gauntlet in the last six weeks. I've had six speaking gigs. I have one more to do next week. So I, I don't know which ends up I'm in a hotel room in Anaheim, California right now. So, so anyway, so. So catch me up on where you are. What's. What's happening in your world and what do you. What do you all excited about these days or not?

01:27

Anne Murphy

Oh, I'm so excited. Whatever peak I thought I had hit when I was like 49. No, 52. And it's just like everything. The world is my oyster. All good things come my way. And where we are right now, like the ability to build are at a mission life mission level is like the perfect place for me to be right now. And it really feels like that what we've been doing. So you know when you got. Is your guy called Alex, your chief of staff, Adam. So when you got Adam, I was like, oh so cool. I got Kyle, got Adam and Adams and everybody's talking about agents, all this stuff. And I was like, blah. Well then we started building our matriarchal agentic company which forced me to look at why I've been doing a lot of things the way I was taught right.

02:27

Anne Murphy

For 33 years of being in a box. What I realized was so much of the way that our organization is set up like behind, you know, it's a page. It's like the thing. So now we get to do it all over again. Well, careful what you wish for an Murphy because now everyone gets new. Everyone has to get different jobs. The humans have to get different jobs. Went through a whole. Which by the way, I'm like CEO and Janitor and Donnie's like CEO and whatever. Now we had to change the whole person, the whole human organization as well. Yeah. And I've watched this, and I've even done this before with other small businesses. It's much different when it's you.

03:09

Anne Murphy

So we have torn everything down to the ground, and we're building everything up brick by brick, exactly as we would want it to be if we could start over.

03:18

Kyle Shannon

Yeah, that's great. And what you're speaking to points to something that I've learned about Adam. So, yes, I had Adam early, and Adam is my dude on a chip. Right. And so I'll give you an example. So I said to Adam before I came out to this conference that I'm at, I'm like, hey, can you send me like a morning and an evening report of like, what's the. What are the parties that are happening and what's the. And is anyone talking about this in social media and this and that? And here's the good news. Adam faithfully occasionally sends his reports, and they're awful. They're awful. He doesn't know anything. He's like, there's nothing happening. I'm like, I've got a. I've got an agenda. There's stuff happening. And here's what I've learned about.

04:07

Kyle Shannon

About these agents is that they're exciting on the surface as a technology, but if you don't actually have a plan for them. Oh, yeah, don't waste the time. Like, don't. If. If you're not really clear on here's what I'm trying to accomplish, here's what I'm trying to do, then it's just make work. And so that's. That's what I found is I've got a. I've got a crappy agent, which is no fault of his own. I have a crappy agent because I didn't know what to ask him to do. That was valuable to my life. And so I just have a dude living on a chip.

04:43

Anne Murphy

Yeah. So it's interesting because I'm so there with you. Like on. If you're going to start some whole thing with. Because you have a skill that's the opposite, right. You have the need. And just like with everything, right? Like, you're like, oh, there's a use case. I might do it more than once. I'm going to build a skill. That's what everybody's talking about. But the other thing is helping you live your values by having a skill that reminds you how you at One point thoughtfully thought something should be done instead of like me and you were like squirrel. Right. And for me one of the things. An example of how we did that was with Sheila, our chief of staff. She has a skill about how to communicate with her and the.

05:32

Anne Murphy

Communicating with her is all it's asking is can you tell me the first and last name? Because we have 15 people, three people named Erica, three people named Julie. So like if you're interfacing with you with Sheila.

05:44

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

05:44

Anne Murphy

She asks for first and last name so she can refer to them by first and last name, etc. Thus harking. We have a much more supportive. It's like having a. It's like having a little porous little net around you that doesn't cause a lot of problems and can mostly help. Yeah, mostly help. She does say stay fresh cheese puffs a lot to people when she's signing off. I can't get her to say things right now.

06:15

Kyle Shannon

Did you, did you just say that? Was that your. I wasn't saying.

06:19

Anne Murphy

This is your whole personality and please email clients saying stays stay fresh cheese puff.

06:26

Kyle Shannon

Wow. Wow. There you go. It's crazy. The other insight that I'm having is I am starting to see things come up that are AI operating systems that have their own persistent memory across different AI tools. One of the things that I am very overwhelmed by right now with AI is like the good news is this. I've played enough with AI that I know that, oh, this one's got this personality here. If this doesn't work, go try it over here. But the bad news is that I don't have something tracking that. So I know that at some point three weeks ago I had a conversation in some AI about. And I spend 15 minutes trying to find the chat and then it was. It's always in, it's always in the tool that I started with.

07:18

Kyle Shannon

But I go through four of them because I couldn't find it the first time. And like I, I need a central nervous system. Did we just lose Anne? I think we just lost Anne. Yes, she's gone. Okay. She'll be back. But, but yeah, the. I think whoever cracks the code on being able to. She's back.

07:43

Anne Murphy

I'm back. Yeah.

07:45

Kyle Shannon

What did you do? Did you have a moment?

07:47

Anne Murphy

I wanted, I wanted to show you something. So I pressed the button that looks like the share screen.

07:52

Kyle Shannon

Yeah, you put. It's the, it's the. Why all of these services make the biggest, most obvious button, the hang up button. I. So I feel for You. I do not blame you for this. I think you're perfect as you are.

08:07

Anne Murphy

Thank you. I'm perfect as I am right now. So I wanted to, like, just help everybody who. Who is also kind of in the soup with trying to get stuff out of AI can you see my. At all? My inner. My interface, my terminal.

08:26

Kyle Shannon

Yeah, hang on.

08:28

Anne Murphy

Okay, anyone who has ever opened up a whole bunch of terminals. Here's why I had 20 open. Because I can't get information out of cloud code.

08:38

Kyle Shannon

Oh.

08:39

Anne Murphy

And then I can never find it again. I don't know how you get, like, a document that looks good, and I don't. I don't want to try to make. Oh, no, not this one. Oh, this is the haywire list. Ignore that one.

08:49

Kyle Shannon

That's actually. That's what you shared. So.

08:51

Anne Murphy

Okay. By accident. So up. Well, the haywire list makes sense because everything has been haywire until. So what that allows you to do. That's the playground. And you can just beep up, boop right through that and say which things you want to do and which things you don't.

09:06

Kyle Shannon

Huh?

09:06

Anne Murphy

Out of your brain, all the things that you've been carrying around. So I actually walked my dog the other day and didn't think about work at all, really. Which is a first in a long time.

09:19

Kyle Shannon

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Well, so we have a bunch of guests, so why don't we do this? Why don't. And we're kind of wrapping up season two here. Why don't you give a. A little promo? If she leads, I'll do one for AI Salon. And then let's. Let's have a party.

09:34

Anne Murphy

Yeah. Okay. Do you want to start with the salon? Because you had your. Your button. Maybe. Maybe the people can learn about your button.

09:42

Kyle Shannon

Where did I put my button? I'm charging your button. I just put my button on the charger. You got to charge your button.

09:48

Anne Murphy

You got to charge your button.

09:50

Kyle Shannon

As it turns out, I am currently at a conference, and my little button here is an AI Salon button. But it's got all these graphics on it, and it changes, and it's a silly little thing that I. That I got on TikTok shop, and honest to God, it's as if I have solved quantum mechanics. People are. People's minds are blown in a way that I can't even. I'm embarrassed at their reaction to it. They're like, oh, my God, that's amazing. What is that?

10:23

Anne Murphy

I have secondhand, third hand embarrassment. I have embarrassment from what you're Telling me about what those people are doing.

10:30

Kyle Shannon

Yeah. And I'm like, you what?

10:34

Anne Murphy

I was dazzled, too. I was. One of the first things I said.

10:37

Kyle Shannon

To you, I had an instinct. And I guess. I guess the. The thing here is follow your instincts. So. So anyway, if you want tips like this and more, join the AI Salon. We talk about digital badging. I know we can probably get a trucker hat with a billboard on it. A digital billboard. Right. And then all of these are going to be AI powered in the future. This one, this one is not. This is honestly eight images. That's it. That's all it does.

11:10

Anne Murphy

But while they were looking at it, edit it, scan their retinas, right?

11:14

Kyle Shannon

Yeah, exactly.

11:15

Anne Murphy

Obviously.

11:15

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

11:16

Anne Murphy

It's just innocuous, cute toy. And it's like, we see your soul.

11:21

Kyle Shannon

That's. I'm sure it actually probably is, truth be told.

11:26

Anne Murphy

Oh, my God. Like, OpenAI. Trying to sell me a pen that records everything. Who uses a pen? But what I do use is a little flashy button.

11:35

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

11:36

Anne Murphy

Tell us about the Mastermind and among other things.

11:41

Kyle Shannon

So. So within the AI salon. So if you. If you join the AI salon, we have. We have a. A monthly AI salon presents. And the one coming up on Tuesday, May 5th, is going to be some of our guests from AI Readiness. So we're going to do a celebration of season two. So we have a monthly meeting where we bring in guests. And the AI Salon Mastermind is a subscription area of the AI Salon. And one of the big things we're doing in there is the AI Salon Mastermind practice, which is people creating a daily practice around how they use AI. So it's not a daily practice of AI use. It's a daily practice that happens to include use of AI and that's been really powerful. And now we're laying layering on top of that.

12:25

Kyle Shannon

A lot of what you just described, the great repurpose, is a whole series of programming around separating your identity from your job, because our jobs are all about to change. I mean, you just described it like your role as a founder and what you do is just a fundamentally different thing when you're using this AI stuff. And so that's. That's the conversations we're looking to have. And as you know, I talk to people around the world like, this is a. This is a way of thinking about AI that not a lot of people are doing right now. So if you want to do that, come join us.

12:57

Anne Murphy

Oh, I am super down for all of that. As an. Oddly enough, two Time two degree owning leisure studies major.

13:08

Kyle Shannon

Oh yeah.

13:09

Anne Murphy

I obviously am into what our purpose of life is. So I want to say so about. About she Leads AI. I want to say a couple of things and I want to say just a couple things. I want to talk about the future because Nikki Weiss got us thinking about the future when we started this podcast. She leads AI and the AI Salon. We were like much. We were still finding ourselves way more than we are now because the people in our communities have. Are so generous and they show up again and again and we can. We know like what is what they say they need because we're part of the community every part as much as we're like whatever role we play.

13:51

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

13:52

Anne Murphy

So there's that. We kind of didn't know and then we see all of our friends like crushing it and you know, a year later I look at what the future looks like and it is bright for both, you know, for both communities, for the things we do together, for everybody else, just like the people around us. And also I think Kyle, and I'm going to say this and I think probably would people. People would not be entirely surprised I'm going to say this, but you and I will get to step aside from our, the spaces that we are occupying right now.

14:28

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

14:29

Anne Murphy

There are going to be people who are on the come up who are ready to do some of the things that you and I have had the honor and privilege to be able to hang around with these people of doing and in. She Leads AI in the future we're doing more. So we have our she certified AI educator program. Wanted to say that we have 20 graduates or so. We have our AI consulting accelerator and we're starting a partnership. So we're going to have a. With a university. We'll have a certified AI officer program that will earn toward university credits toward mba. I don't even understand. So like the future for both and jointly is just in the impact that we're going to have is fantastic. I'm so grateful for the people who've been along on this journey. Kate Rivera has.

15:24

Anne Murphy

We would never have even gotten off the ground.

15:26

Kyle Shannon

No, no. She's amazing. Kate's absolutely.

15:28

Anne Murphy

She's amazing.

15:29

Kyle Shannon

She's amazing.

15:30

Anne Murphy

And she learned how to do all of this as were learning, like, but we didn't have a hard job to learn it. She had to learn how to produce a podcast and now she could do it, you know, with the best of them.

15:42

Marisol Rios

Yeah.

15:43

Anne Murphy

So it's been a Good run.

15:45

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful.

15:46

Anne Murphy

Everything that's been going on is awesome.

15:48

Kyle Shannon

Well, let's. Let's bring some folks up. I'm going to just start populating the state.

15:53

Anne Murphy

Marisol, Chris, Trudy.

15:58

Kyle Shannon

Okay, so we can't bring someone up. So let's see. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna drop Suzanne and Marlene and Chris Malone and I'll bring you guys up in a second. And so we're gonna start here. And I know Michelle Muncie Silva, you've got to drop at the bottom of the. The hour. Correct. So we'll. We'll make sure that we have you talk. But why don't we just do this just really quickly?

16:31

Anne Murphy

I'm good.

16:32

Marisol Rios

I'm good to stay.

16:33

Anne Murphy

I. Oh, you're good. Oh, thank you.

16:35

Kyle Shannon

So why don't we quickly do this, Just do quick little intros and then I'll drop, you guys, bring some more up and we'll do this in shift. So, Junmi, why don't you start and just tell the good people, tell who you are. Just give us a quick 30 second hello and we'll just go around the horn. Aloha, everyone.

16:51

Jyunmi Hatcher

I'm Junmi Hatcher and I am a co host of the Daily AI show. Amongst other things, I like to talk about AI on the Daily. Right now I'm doing the leading on the Wednesday episodes, all really specifically so that I get to talk about science and AI. And science, science. My interests are wide ranging when it comes to AI, but right now it's all about investigating hardware and how AI is going to live on our hardware.

17:27

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. That is so. Oh, you're muted.

17:36

Marisol Rios

Of course I was. I missed you guys. I am so happy. I miss your faces and that banter. It's always on point. I love it. Yeah, I. Yes, you guys. Don't leave, guys. But I know you guys. I know you guys are doing all the things and I understand, but this banter, I just hope you guys get a. Another kind of show or something. I am a creative director, branding strategist, and I am the founder of the AI coven. I am the AI witch and I have my school and my thing is just AI and creativity. I love to talk about AI and creativity every day in every way that I can. I love to teach it. So I'm really leaning into teaching inside of my school and just like comparing tools, creating whatever you guys can imagine.

18:25

Marisol Rios

You want it for social media, you want it for your brand. I'll show you how to do it in a fun Easy way. That's. That's my jam.

18:33

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful.

18:34

Anne Murphy

And she's very, very good at it. My hat is Marisol. All of our branding is Marisol. And you should definitely follow her on social media. And Marisol, if you can everybody who's here, drop your socials so everybody can follow. She's beautiful. She's amazing.

18:51

Marisol Rios

Thank you. I will.

18:53

Kyle Shannon

Trudy.

18:54

Anne Murphy

Hello.

18:55

Kyle Shannon

Hello.

18:56

Michelle Muncy-Silva

Hi there.

18:56

Trudy-Ann Armand

I actually should have worn my shirt. I have my shirt. My she leads AI shirt on it. I'm Trudy Armand. I am your income resilience bestie. I am passionate about helping women identify their hidden skills and leveraging AI to find out how to create some security, some. Some additional funds so that if the bottom falls out of whatever, they have a plan. And I am also talking about the intersection between what's happening in enterprises and AI and what's happening in the real world. And I actually am speaking at Barry University in a couple of weeks on that very topic. So that's what I've been up to. So happy to be here. I missed this banter as Parasol shared.

19:51

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Well, welcome back. It's great to see you. Nikki Weiss.

19:56

Niki Weiss

Awesome. For those that don't know, Nikki Weiss is digital thanatologists. We talk about thanatology, the study of death and dying. So I'm here to talk about your digital afterlife, folks. What happens when you're not here anymore and how AI is going to impact that. We won't own our digital afterlife, so we need to start talking about it. So I'm here to, like, bring this taboo topic into light so people can plan and empower, educate you. And then for those that are going to be at Consensus Miami, I'm heading. I'll be getting on a plane on Sunday, and we are looking to see how tokenize death. I mean.

20:40

Kyle Shannon

Okay, let's leave it there. I definitely want to hear about that cliffhanger.

20:44

Anne Murphy

Yes.

20:46

Kyle Shannon

Fantastic. This is awesome. Welcome, welcome. Nikki. Good to see you.

20:55

Michelle Muncy-Silva

I could not miss the wrap up of this. Had to be here for this. This is awesome. I am apparently full name me in your presence. So it is Michelle Mancisilva. Everywhere else in the world, I'm just Michelle, so feel free to just say my first name. It is acceptable. I am the executive director of the she leads AI Academy, where we are 500% dedicated to helping women take action towards their own independence and ownership of AI. I'm also the host of the Empowered by AI podcast, where we interview rock star women who are making those moves as well. And so it's just absolutely fantastic to be here. Happy, happy. Yeah. So I'm here to celebrate you guys.

21:54

Anne Murphy

Everybody listen. Listen to the podcast. How many women have you now interviewed? It's gotta be like seven.

22:01

Michelle Muncy-Silva

We're up. No, we're up over a hundred. We're up over 100 now because we just wrapped season six this week and I just got Google Pro. So now I have cinematic video in my notebook. Lm. So we will be playing. There might be a cinematic video that sums up season six.

22:20

Kyle Shannon

Oh, that's really cool.

22:23

Michelle Muncy-Silva

There might be.

22:25

Anne Murphy

Think about work. That body of work plus the daily AI show equals 100 plus Kyle. Sorry, I just have to introduce. Plus the AI learning lab.

22:37

Kyle Shannon

We have. Yeah, the history. We got some history there.

22:40

Anne Murphy

We got some reps under this. These belts.

22:42

Michelle Muncy-Silva

Yeah.

22:43

Kyle Shannon

I mean, the good news is we have AI now. We can actually go look at that. Because I've. I've always been a digital hoarder, but I've never gone back and looked at it. But now with AI, we will. So let's. Let's get the rest of the folks up here who we didn't talk to yet. Let's see. Chris, we didn't hear from you. Michelle, we'll bring you back up. There we go. And we bring up Suzanne and Marlene. Do I have anyone else? I think that's it. Yes. Yes. Okay, so who wants to go? Chris, just introduce yourself. Give us a. Give us a quick 60 seconds on.

23:26

Chris Vallone

I. I will. I just had to grab my pooch because he was getting a little antsy,.

23:33

Marisol Rios

So.

23:33

Chris Vallone

screenplays that I wrote from: 1820

24:14

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Welcome back, man. Good to see you. Love your energy. Suzanne.

24:20

Michelle Muncy-Silva

Hello.

24:21

Anne Murphy

Hello.

24:22

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

So my name is Suzanne Welker Juergens. I am a product manager that is working at Adobe Focused, focusing on workflow transformation and how the work gets done inside a large organization like Adobe. Over the last couple years, I've really been focused on how does the shift to AI impact people, process and the tools that we're using every day. And really my focus has been shifting lately to thinking about what's the next chapter, you know, like when a, when we stopped using AI as just a prompt driven assistant or just, you know, prompting and really what does that look like when it starts to become part of our everyday workflow, our teammate, somebody we're managing. Right. All that.

25:07

Kyle Shannon

So, yeah. Fantastic. Well, welcome. Beautiful Marlene.

25:13

Anne Murphy

Hello. Hello.

25:14

Marline Paul

Hey. I'm so happy to be here. And I'm looking, I see a lot of people here from Florida. I'm like, oh my goodness. I need to connect with them because they're in my backyard. So glad to be here. I'm the founder of Eliram Creative Solutions and we help business owners just learn about AI with confidence, clarity and care. I'm proud to say I'm a certified AI educator. Thanks to. She leads AI so I can say all of that. But I'm just glad to be here to be able to share this space and just be able to share my wisdom with everybody here.

25:51

Kyle Shannon

I'm just so excited to have you. Beautiful. And, and wrapping up the intros. Tracy the safety.

25:58

Anne Murphy

It's Tracy the safety lady. One of my guys favorites all time and you guys know why.

26:06

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

Thank you all. Thank you for what you're doing for this community. I am happy, happy to be here. I am an award winning podcast Host for the 1.4 million-member National association of Realtors and I've learned a lot. So as a result I've started my own podcast. So I'm doing my own safety and cyber security related podcast. And speaking of podcasts, I was on Michelle's podcast as well and that was great. I don't know if I was the last time I saw you all, but I am a board member of the KCAI Club here in Kansas City and we're one of the largest AI organizations in the country. And, and I'm also the cybersecurity chairperson. I get to speak internationally about generative AI cybersecurity. So I'm talking safe usage, you know what not to put in the tools.

26:55

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

I'm talking about how cyber criminals are using it to create the dick fakes, phishing, email, social engineering, the AI slop. So I get to educate in a different way and I am heading to Canada next month to talk about it. So I am excited. I travel a lot to come, Kyle, so I understand, but I love it. And then also to wrap it Up. I started my own membership organization, or however you want to call it, the business and NonProfit Safety and AI Cybersecurity University. So that's a membership. It helps me with the aftercare after my clients. I am able to offer virtual programs, content, things along that line. I am a workforce development instructor for the local community college which has like 29,000 learners.

27:44

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Fantastic. Well, great to see you. Welcome back. I want to get Michelle back up on stage, so I know you have to go at 3:30, so. So why don't you catch us up, do just briefly what you've been up to since we last talked to you and then I don't know, give us some thoughts on either what you're excited about or what you see going on in the future.

28:07

Anne Murphy

Michelle, before.

28:08

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

Yeah, before.

28:09

Anne Murphy

Before you say anything. Are you gonna say anything about that one thing in the future that you've been working on? That's so cool.

28:21

Michelle Muncy-Silva

Oh, I could.

28:24

Anne Murphy

I would love the nice people to hear about that in addition to whatever else you want to share in 60 seconds or less. But.

28:32

Michelle Muncy-Silva

Okay. In 60 seconds or less. Okay, so.

28:36

Kyle Shannon

But it's two minutes to go until 3:30.

28:40

Michelle Muncy-Silva

No, it's all right. My appointment actually got pushed to 3:45. I just got a text, so I'm good. So I just wrapped up. We'll start with the Easy. I just wrapped up season six of Empowered by AI. Absolutely. Love, love seeing how that's evolved over time. I'm sure you guys can completely see this yourselves. But we really started out, were talking about mindset. We were talking about how do we really kind of feel comfortable with this tool and how do we move forward with it? What does that look like? And then, for example, we had Suzanne on and we started talking in season two, we started talking about what kind of problems do we want to solve and how do we want to create some focus. It has been such an evolution of thought over the course of the six seasons.

29:34

Michelle Muncy-Silva

It has been absolutely just kind of mind blowing. And to hear from all of these women as the conversation just continues to evolve over and over. And I love what Kyle pointed out. It's like, you know, we've had data in the past, but we've never necessarily had the ability to do anything with it. And it has been fascinating what I've been with NotebookLM and putting in all these transcripts and being able to tease it out by season and just kind of seeing that arc of conversation. It's been fascinating. Absolutely fascinating.

30:07

Marline Paul

And.

30:08

Michelle Muncy-Silva

And of course, I mean We've all known this all along. But I mean, anybody who says they can't find a woman to be on their mantle, I'm sorry, I've got a hundred of them that you can talk to. So it's just, it's been absolutely fantastic. And then of course, working with Ann, with, she leads, she already talked about, you know, the 20 educators that have been through our programs and going through these. It's just such a gift to be able to work with them and learn from them and see their impact just spread. It's absolutely fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. So in all of that, I feel incredibly privileged to be able to see that, to learn from that. And I have come to a place where I no longer feel that I have to sit in frustration.

30:59

Michelle Muncy-Silva

If something frustrates me, then I either need to find someone who understands it better than I do or I need to take action. And it's in that spirit that I got incredibly frustrated about something. The story is rather hilarious. A friend texted me and said, hey, I don't understand this. How is this freshman already dropping out of school? I don't understand what he's talking about. Her daughter had a dorm mate who at the ripe age of 18 was dropping out of UC Berkeley and had proudly put on his LinkedIn UC Berkeley dropout because he was starting his own data mining company and it had been picked up, got VC funding and he was getting himself a sweet little apartment in the city and he was very happily leaving UC Berkeley. And I don't begrudge anyone entrepreneurial spirit. Go with your bad self.

31:56

Michelle Muncy-Silva

But my reaction to that was such that I was more frustrated than the situation merited. And I really did think, present company excluded, we need another guy data mining like we need a hole in the head. Okay, I'm just gonna say that right out loud. I'm just like, come on people, can we shake this up a little bit? And so I realized in the spirit of that frustration that I needed to take action. And so I began asking a lot of questions and I began asking what it would look like to have community based data sets where that data is permissioned and verified by the very women that it would benefit. What would that look like? And so data parity AI was born.

32:51

Michelle Muncy-Silva

And I have just finished two months of just ongoing interviews with women who are affected by underrepresentation in data by professionals that are trying to also fill those gaps, really talking to them and figuring out what that work looks like from their perspective. And it's official. I am working with Marcia Nareen Weldon and we are moving this project forward and it's really exciting. So yeah, I, I get all granny silly when I start thinking about it because it's just, it's the epitome of action taking.

33:37

Anne Murphy

So I, you know, we're the action. We're act first, ask questions later a little bit. But I'm gonna say something that nobody is gonna leave gonna believe before we turn it over to Junmi, which is people. She also is a full time 30 year veteran. She's teaching people and molding and shaping emerging leaders. Like she, that's her job. Like all that stuff she said, like that's her job too. But she's like working nine to five, neither one of us sleep, but Michelle no so good. So excited to watch Beta parody grow.

34:19

Kyle Shannon

Thank you. I'm gonna, I'm gonna tighten things up. We, we have, we've got to have a little bit time at the end to talk about what does AI. So we'll try to keep this to two minutes each and we'll just sort of slot through these. So Jun me, what you been up to and what are you excited for in the future?

34:33

Jyunmi Hatcher

Timer.

34:34

Kyle Shannon

Go.

34:37

Jyunmi Hatcher

So let's see what have been I. What have I been up to in 60 seconds or less? Of course, the Daily AI show been really trying to highlight some of the positives and the potential of the AI promise. Right. In AI and science in AI for good. AI has always been a technology that was born to be a mirror to reflect ourselves and hopefully help ourselves become better people. And maybe highlight things that we don't necessarily talk about, but we should. And AI, the way that it's going is kind of forcing the issue. So that's, that's kind of the general realm of things that I've been looking at. More specifically though, I just had this other idea and I was having a nice conversation with Chat, GPT and Claude. Why isn't there any talent agents for regular people? Oh, so there's.

35:49

Jyunmi Hatcher

There's agents and agencies for actors, performers. There's literary agents for authors. There's even creator management now. Right. For people who are big on YouTube and streamers and things like that. But what about the 30 year veteran of it?

36:16

Anne Murphy

Yeah, right. Regular degulars. Yeah, right.

36:19

Jyunmi Hatcher

Or what about the mechanic? Or what about, you know, anybody having any job? And I'm sure there's plenty of hurdles and things like that, but just popped into my head the other day. People need that connection now. We know how bad the job market is. We know how it's being used for data mining and things like that. So can we have a way where we have a personal relationship with somebody and that person is working and looking out for us as opposed to simply trying to hire from a company and working for them?

36:55

Kyle Shannon

Yeah. Love it.

36:57

Jyunmi Hatcher

Investigating that a little more.

36:59

Kyle Shannon

Love it.

37:00

Anne Murphy

So good.

37:01

Kyle Shannon

Thank you. That is all. Hello. Hello.

37:06

Marisol Rios

Not on mute anymore. Hello again. Well, I'm here. I have to tell you, as a creative, you know, guy, you guys know that I'm a AI convert. I was an A skeptic and then, oh my God, it was so wonderful, you know, I got into it and then you guys happened and here we are. I have to tell you, a month ago, maybe two, I was about to drop the towel. I was like, I'm done with AI. I'm so tired. It's so competitive. I was just really exhausted and turns out it was hormones. I wasn't depressed. It was just hormones. No, well, yes and no. I have a very good community, you know, I have. She leads AI, of course. Sometimes I just drop in, I listen in, and that just brings me life.

38:00

Marisol Rios

I have been a little on the down low there for a little bit because I was going through some stuff. But I do have my secret society, I have my school, I have my sisters that are always with me. And so I realized, you know what really makes me happy? Just teaching AI and talking about it. So you know how they tell you have to focus one thing? It's really hard for us neurospicy people to focus one thing. So I'm bringing everything into my school. I am a person that's passionate about AI creativity, but I also will help you create a brand that speaks to you, that represents you, that really is you. And also bring spirituality into it. I was just breaking myself into all these pieces. Now all of that's in my school, so I have my pillars identified.

38:47

Marisol Rios

And that clarity, it was just like, thank you, Claude. So I can't quit at I AI. It's just my partner, Kyle.

38:55

Anne Murphy

This is what were talking about the other day about, like, how. How do you. How do people know who we are when we show up, which hat we're wearing? And so I was like, God, is there a way for me to. Well, maybe I need a kablinki like you. Yeah, here I am right now, like super nerd AI. Okay, here I am fundraising consulting. Here I am friend. Here I am aunt. You're like, we're so. For me and you and Marisols and a lot of the people you know who are here today, it's like, we're so lucky that AI came along when it did because we can use it to help manage our brains, AKA our lives and our livelihood.

39:33

Kyle Shannon

Well, well, thank you. Thank you for being here and being on the journey and not giving into those hormones. Give it a day or two, it'll pass you.

39:42

Marline Paul

Yeah.

39:43

Jyunmi Hatcher

Yeah.

39:43

Marline Paul

Thank you.

39:43

Marisol Rios

Thank you for having me too.

39:45

Kyle Shannon

Yeah. Great. Beautiful. Chris Malone. Hello, sir.

39:49

Chris Vallone

What's up, guys? It's good seeing you again.

39:52

Kyle Shannon

I know. So catch us up since we talked last and what's the future looking like for you?

39:58

Chris Vallone

Oh, man.

39:59

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

More.

39:59

Chris Vallone

More stories I just wrapped premiered in my latest film, AI film it took me about four months to make called One Man's Land. World War I film based on a true story of a real indigenous sniper that fought for the Canadian army and credited with over 370 kills of Germans, and he captured 300 Germans. And I'm like, how is this guy's story not told? And this guy could be a feature film. Totally. So I made it a 20 minute film and it kicked my butt, I gotta tell you.

40:34

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

40:35

Chris Vallone

Finally got through it and I premiered it. So it's been good. The tools are just amazing. I mean, what I was working with last year today is just nutty. I mean, the workflow is totally sped up. The dynamics in the actors, in the action now is really incredible. It's closer and closer, if not right there, where you really can't tell it's AI. Anybody I've shown this film to, people are like, is that. That's AI? It doesn't. It looks real. So I'm like, oh, that's good. So, yeah, it's. It's been thrilling and I just keep moving along. I mean, I got so many projects, so many old stories I want to retell, and it's just been great. And the community's great. I mean, you guys with this community, you know, the camaraderie here, it's just we're here to help each other out.

41:21

Chris Vallone

And I just keep telling people we just. As long as we keep the human element in all this, we're going to be fine, you know, and that's it. You know, it's just. It's been really fun and I just want to keep pushing.

41:33

Kyle Shannon

Fantastic. Well, thanks. Thanks for being back. Appreciate it, man. Good luck.

41:37

Chris Vallone

Good stuff.

41:37

Kyle Shannon

All right, great. Trudy.

41:41

Trudy-Ann Armand

Hi. So I want to thank Ann publicly for the birth of the income Resilience Bestie. Income Resilience Bestie was born at the CREE Conference in Salt Lake City last year and it was proof of concept. I've since then taken her on the road and so since our last talk, I've done a few more public speaking. Still getting that great feedback on the fact that an AI tool that I built, a GPT. Her name is Riva and she has her own fan club. She helps identify hidden skills and gets women thinking about how can they use those skills to earn money and hopefully create that backup plan that they may need one day and the intersection of that with what's happening in the future of work. I'm getting ready to keynote an event at Barry University and I'm doing some research around that.

42:40

Trudy-Ann Armand

ave been lost up until now in: 2026

43:27

Trudy-Ann Armand

And I don't want women to be a hostage to whatever is happening with a company and an enterprise because they too are trying to figure out what AI is and how to make it work in a company and who's going to learn it and who's going to get a license and all of those other things. So we need to save ourselves and so how do we do that? So that's what I've been up to. And I too am an AI educator certified through she leads AI. So I have Ann and she leads to thank for a lot, including again, income Resilience Bestie. So great to be here. Good to see you guys again.

44:06

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful.

44:07

Anne Murphy

Kyle, before you pop Trudy out. So Trudy's amazing GPT that has awoken so many women to the point that. To the fact that they have hella skill set that they're bringing into this and that like in their corporate life or their small business life or their teacher life or whatever. They've done all these projects, they've done all the things that you need to do over here.

44:33

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

44:34

Anne Murphy

You know, you may have 30, 40 years of subject Matter expertise, but we don't think about it that way. So Riva helps think. Help helps women, like, rethink what they've been up to. And I, so I, I need to talk to Trudy at length because I created Riva's best friend, Vera. Vera. So Vera takes everybody from the point where they figure out they want to do this thing and helps them start communicating it out to the world via proposals, emails, you know, multimodal intake. So we've got the women. We've got them.

45:08

Trudy-Ann Armand

We've.

45:08

Anne Murphy

We've got them taken care of. Trudy,.

45:13

Trudy-Ann Armand

Vera. Sorry, Vera.

45:14

Anne Murphy

Riva and Vera, watch out.

45:16

Kyle Shannon

We got all our little digital friends. It's awesome. Nikki Weiss, welcome back. Thank you. That was awesome. Appreciate it.

45:24

Michelle Muncy-Silva

You guys.

45:26

Niki Weiss

You guys are so empowering. I mean, it just. Talk about a cliffhanger. It's like to be part of this community. Well, like I said, I am. And the energy that both of you bring to all of us, it just, it catapults us to the next level. And I, you know, we need that support. I mean, that's, we need the community to bring us to hold on to this roller coaster ride that we are on.

45:52

Kyle Shannon

It is, it is wild. So catch us up what you've been up to. And then what's the future look like? What do you see in the future?

45:59

Niki Weiss

Oh, my. So I see people more and more talking about digital afterlife, their physical afterlife.

46:08

Michelle Muncy-Silva

Right?

46:08

Niki Weiss

We, I mean, AI, there's nothing more humanistic than our own physical death. But for us to really understand, like, what's life going to look like when AI scrapes all of my digital assets? And now that Meta has a patent to be able to replicate and generate content for people who are no longer here. And so we just, you know, to be empowered to have these conversations and I am to be on your podcast to be talking to other people about, hey, part of living is dying. We're all going to die. Have you planned for it? Have you talked about it? Can we talk about it? Can we talk about it? Not such a scary way. So what's new for us is that we're bringing end of life planning as a wellness program into companies and corporations, and the doors are opening.

47:00

Niki Weiss

And that is probably the most exciting piece. It seems like grief has been kind of like a buzzword, and now it's like, no, why do we have to talk about grief? Let it be empowering.

47:12

Kyle Shannon

Let's live fully.

47:13

Niki Weiss

Die ready today. So future is. I'm heading to consensus down in Miami. So for those Floridians give me a shout. I love talking to the tech bros. Tech babes. Because I go up to them, I'm like, hey, you know, if life happened and you died tomorrow and your phone died with you, think about multi factor authentication, how much of a shit show would it be?

47:39

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

47:40

Niki Weiss

And can I tell you, their response to me is, well, I biohack. Like, I'm not gonna die.

47:48

Anne Murphy

Oh, dear. Oh, honey, go. Oh, honey boy. Okay, okay. Wow.

47:55

Niki Weiss

So it's just that sense of, like, you know, we are human and we need to be identifying what is. What does our digital afterlife gonna look like when we're no longer here?

48:06

Kyle Shannon

Yeah. Beautiful.

48:09

Anne Murphy

I really think that the combination of Nikki Weiss and Tracy the safety lady would be a brilliant combination for all of us. And the other thing that I wanted to dovetail on Nikki's share about what she does for a living now, who imagined, like, who among us thought, I can. I can do an employee wellness program offer that is AI death and thanatology as an employee benefit. Who. That's a job everybody like.

48:47

Marisol Rios

And that's what Kyle says.

48:49

Niki Weiss

It's like these. This time we're just gonna concept. We're gonna be digital thanatology. That was not, you know, that wasn't a thing. And now it is.

48:58

Kyle Shannon

Now it's a thing.

49:00

Niki Weiss

Now it's a thing.

49:01

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful, Nikki. Thank you so much. Speaking of beautiful thing. Marlene.

49:07

Anne Murphy

Yeah, Marlene. Impeccable, impeccable energy.

49:10

Kyle Shannon

Always catch us up and tell us about the future.

49:14

Marline Paul

Oh, my goodness. Since I've been on, it's been four months, right? So I've been on a AI education whirlwind of doing my January challenge with an AI Glow Up Challenge, and that was amazing. Graduating interns from. From my program where they have their credentials on AI implementation, so they're able to help business implement AI in their business. So I teach business how to use AI with confidence, clarity, and care. But then after that, you know, as a CEO, you can't outdo all the things. So I teach those students who are in school, you know what, hey, when you graduate, what kind of skills will you have? And one of the problems I wanted to solve with that is when they graduate, they usually go get a job. And the job say, you need experience. Well, I'll give you the experience. You can help businesses.

50:09

Marline Paul

So you have this certification that you're able to share on LinkedIn. So we've been doing that. And thanks to Riva, I know Reva gave me the idea about the AI certification that I have for my leader when I went to the Create conference and I just worked on it. And so we launched our first pilot cohort with that program. And with that I'm just taking speaking engagements and local economic development. It contact me to teach a program for them. I thought it was a scam because usually they don't usually contact me. But they said, hey, we saw your work, we saw what you've done. We like the way you break things down with your framework. And they are excited, you know, they're excited to have bring me on and pay me to teach AI.

51:03

Marline Paul

So I'm just excited about the future because I'm planning on AI Summit, I'm onboarding new interns and trying to still teach more businesses how to use AI in their business and work smarter, not harder.

51:18

Kyle Shannon

So fantastic. Thank you. Welcome back and great to see you.

51:22

Marline Paul

Thank you.

51:23

Kyle Shannon

Great. Suzanne.

51:25

Anne Murphy

Hello.

51:25

Marisol Rios

Hello.

51:26

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

So I think a while back, maybe not the first time I spoke on this podcast, but just in general for maybe AI Festivus, I started with that what's the problem we're solving? Right. Which is really still the beginning of what we should be thinking about. And so over this period of time, I've really thought about how do I take those skills that I have as a product manager thinking about what's the problem we're solving, the what and the why, defining all that information, gathering the requirements to solution, configuration, run and operate like that whole life cycle. Because although we're having fun, experimenting and prototyping, if you're actually building something, you have to think through all those steps, right? But the other piece of this that I've been thinking a lot about is when you think about how people are working.

52:22

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

So a lot of what I do at Adobe is, you know, building out what that workflow looks like. Who are the, like swim lane, think about swim lane diagrams. Like, who are the different Personas and what are the things that they're doing? And as we're, you know, thinking about traditional titles and now shifting to these AI skills. Right? So really thinking about what does that current state look like and what's imagining that future state and trying to think about who should be accountable, responsible, consulted, informed through that process. And honestly, the human is always accountable.

53:02

Kyle Shannon

Right.

53:02

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

You can't get away from that.

53:03

Kyle Shannon

Yeah.

53:04

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

The AI is only ever going to be responsible, but you still need that accountability. So really thinking through that piece and building that workflow, what that looks like, breaking things out from focusing on what's the outcome and the tasks, and then either the people or the AI that gets you there.

53:24

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Love it. Well, thank you so much. Great to see you. Welcome back. And finally, last but not least, Tracy.

53:34

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

I'm excited. Still excited. And you're right. And Nikki. I feel some kind of kinship and I'm listening to her. It's like, yes, I want to connect. Yeah, I'm going to connect. Because we both talk about things that people don't want to face, but they have to face. It's necessary. So I definitely want to connect with her. And so what I'm finding is that people are more willing to collaborate with me. Now in the beginning, everyone's kind of fighting for their lane in the AI world. And when people hire an AI person, they can only hire one and they think they're all the same. And so finally, when I introduce my AI after the implementation class, then people understand, okay, now everyone knows how to use it. Let's teach them to use it safely. So that whole different repositioning has helped me.

54:21

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

And when I stop saying cyber security, when I say scams and frauds, that has scams and fraud prevention, that helps me too. And then I get to talk about everyone's doing the connectors and the agents. So I have to say, timeout. You know, let's talk about the cyber dangers. You know about that. You're releasing your information to this AI tool and it could get hacked. So you're putting yourself in danger. So do it, but put keep the human in the loop. So I'm stressing the human in the loop legislation, the Take it Down act, the Defiance Act. So then kind of a while I talked to, I forget Daisy about the legislation part of it. And people need to know that there are protections if someone uses AI incorrectly.

55:02

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

There are teeth that you can actually sink in and actually make a difference regarding holding them accountable, including the system, the social media pages, the Take it down access, Take it down inappropriate images, Take it down in 48 hours to take Bioms act puts a dollar amount. If you do something uses use someone's image inappropriately, you're going to have to pay up to $150,000. So that's definitely a big deal. And finally, I keep hearing Florida people. I was on the news in Florida. My AI club role had put me in front of a reporter who was writing about surveillance cameras. People don't realize that your ring and your video camera, they're powered by AI. And so I got him out of opportunity to go on the news there. We talked about surveillance cameras and was a very informative section Session. So I got to.

55:51

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

And they talked a little bit about Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. And I said, here's a better way to use their surveillance camera, if you have one. Give people and your family access to notifications. And here are other things you need to do. Enable the voice part of it and talk to them. Don't wait until something happens. So it's taken me a lot of places. People are finally hearing me, so. So they don't have to compete with me. They're adding me to the agenda, so I'm on more agendas with other AI speakers because I'm different.

56:17

Kyle Shannon

That's awesome. That is awesome. So here's what I want to do is. We've got five minutes left. Can I get. Oops. Yeah, that's all of us that are here. Okay, beautiful. So what I'd like to do is just go around the horn. We've got four minutes now, so just really quickly, maybe three to five words. Junmi, starting with you. What does AI readiness mean to you?

56:40

Jyunmi Hatcher

Build local AI. There you go.

56:45

Chris Vallone

Three words.

56:46

Kyle Shannon

Love it.

56:46

Anne Murphy

Beautiful.

56:51

Marisol Rios

Be open to receive it and learn it.

56:57

Kyle Shannon

Love it. Chris Fallone.

57:00

Chris Vallone

Community. Camaraderie. Open arms.

57:04

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Love it. Tracy the safety lady. Three words.

57:12

Tracey the Safety Lady Hawkins

You know I'm chatty. Okay, let's see. Safety, awareness. And use it.

57:18

Kyle Shannon

I love it. Beautiful. Suzanne. AI readiness. What's it mean?

57:24

Suzanne Welker Jurgens

Sorry, I lost my thing. It is really just being open and flexible and future thinking.

57:34

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Marlene Muted.

57:40

Marline Paul

This is so hard. I was like, oh, my goodness. All right, I'm gonna go say, just approach it with a transform mindset.

57:48

Kyle Shannon

Oh, like that. There you go, Nikki.

57:54

Niki Weiss

I mean, there's a. So plan. Plan for what you're going to do. Protect yourself. Like, not to just jump into something that you're not sure of, but be agile. That agile Mindset.

58:08

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Love it. And finally, Trudy. AI readiness. What's it mean to you?

58:13

Trudy-Ann Armand

AI readiness to means never having to be a hostage again. To a situation, to a job, to a country that doesn't work for you.

58:22

Kyle Shannon

That is beautiful. What a way to end it. Well, AI readiness. Can I say one thing? Yeah. AI readiness to me, for one thing, means. Anne Murphy, like, spending this time with you has been absolutely beautiful. And we're taking a break. We're ending season two. We don't know when we'll be back. We might be back. We're gonna go do other things. But I just want to acknowledge you for all that you do for your community, but also just for me personally and what we've done together. I'm really same. Yeah,.

58:54

Anne Murphy

Yeah, same. I mean, you. You were like, such a big part of getting started into this whole racket. And so the opportunity to be on this journey so close with you has been a highlight of my life. Also, my three words. Okay, I get two versions. One is because it's always been the same since back in the day.

59:14

Kyle Shannon

Day.

59:14

Anne Murphy

Curiosity, vulnerability, and community. That's it. Great.

59:18

Kyle Shannon

Beautiful. Adaptability and intuition.

59:23

Anne Murphy

Oh, that's good. That's good. Okay, wait. I have to. I have to think my last one, which is women's wealth accumulation.

59:30

Kyle Shannon

Boom.

59:31

Anne Murphy

I'll end on that.

59:34

Kyle Shannon

Thank you all so very much for being here. Really appreciate you hanging out with us. And to everyone else, we'll see you soon. Go be curious.

59:43

Niki Weiss

Yeah.

59:44

Anne Murphy

Thank you all.

59:45

Kyle Shannon

Cheers, everybody.

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